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| Posted:Mar 8 2005, 06:25 PM |
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*lol* token I could be exact and say the turbos do 108kws  but yeah i was just suggesting goin the conversionc ause he could pick up a full turbo engine probably with the turbo set up off mx6.com for proabably round 1500 that or he could buy one of the ureg tx5,626's or mx6's that their selling on there for around 3 and do the full transplant from that...
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| Posted:Mar 8 2005, 11:00 PM |
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oh sorry man i never would of guess'd that when u sed
| QUOTE | | " Hye why dont ya just turbo your one?? it would eb cheaper probably and you'd ended getting a quicker car ut of it cause you could put in abigger turbo." |
that u really meant
| QUOTE | | "but yeah i was just suggesting goin the conversionc ause he could pick up a full turbo engine probably with the turbo set up off mx6.com for proabably round 1500 that or he could buy one of the ureg tx5,626's or mx6's that their selling on there for around 3 and do the full transplant from that..." |
because when u say 'why dont ya just turbo your one' means y dont just put a turbo on ur non-turbo and it'll be fine. but thats just me hey.  |
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| Posted:Mar 9 2005, 01:09 AM |
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urrr sorry to be an arsehole zorb but token is correct on the power figures. The Ford Telstar TX5 has 110, and the Mazda MX6 has 108. so u just got ur numbers fucked up.
and id say that the comment of "" " Hye why dont ya just turbo your one?? "" well it sounds like na motor aftermarket turbo. great recipe for making a melted engine, not to mention manifolds and anything attached to it. eg fried gearbox. well u could do zorbas recipe for making a paper weight. or do it properly and get either a full engine and box from a wrecker and REBUILD BOTH. then do the turbo conversion. after you get a new manifold, wastegate, aftermarket air fuel / computer, intercooler (you'll fuck it up if you run high air temps.), maybe radiator (remember don't be a fool stay cool). If any more Q & A's pm messege me. Dont use this forum much.
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p.s. if you dont rebuild before u do the conversion you will end up spending double or triple the price of a decent rebuild. And $1500 for an engine (make that turbo engine) well don't say that i didn't warn you but make sure its looked at by a real mechanic and comes with at least a 6 mth warrenty.
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QIK-TX5 can you do me a favor listen to a mechanic or even better a performance specialist rather than zorb  , he seems to be blowing more hot air than a turbo running 30psi. At least get some information from that tokn guy or my self, then back it up by asking your local performance mechanic (they have been doing this stuff for a long time, so they "should" know whats going on.).
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| Posted:Mar 9 2005, 05:06 AM |
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Fiukcin hell what is it a giant bitch session tonight or something christ must be that time of the month..I only suggested to him to keep his car cause he'd spent so much fuckin money on it already and he'd def be selling it at a loss am I right qix?? buying a wreck and doing a full engine transplant and what not would probably work otu the same if not cheaper than him having to sell his old car at a loss (losing money on it) then buying a tx5turbs for more money than he has..
on and shadow ay dick have a read of this link:
http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsales/&#...urbo#suspension |
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| Posted:Mar 9 2005, 05:14 AM |
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| And let em ask you andther fuckin question shadow you dumb cunt did at any stage I say I was a mechanic did at any stage I say yeah just do this...no I fucking didnt it was a suggestion and thats what he asked for..sure get a mechanics advice sure get all that..i suggested soemthing that was it mate. ANd not yet have a seen a melted engine after and aftermarket turbo..my mate has a lil lancer gli 1.8 liter or whatever the fuck it is..its got a t28 on it has been runnign 17psi for over 2 years he regulalry races it at the drags and its been dyno'd a 174kw's atw and still no problems.. ohh a qik btw just thought I'd let you know if your looking for a heap of power and what not I wouldnt even touch the tx5 (now nowing what I know) unless your looking at an engine swap to the dohc engine anyways cause the current engine can probably only handle up to around 17 psi anyways without doing damage..but anyways for more advice from mechancis and car enthusiats (not dicks that drop by every now and then) just speak to the guys on mx6.com their bound to knwo more than anyone else...any guys in probably 7 out of 10 cases chucking a turbo on a standrad engine is fine..its done all the time...of course ya not gonna be able to run 20psi of boost on it but a small 9-12psi should be fine..especially with the engine mods he'll ahgve already anyways I dont care just a suggestion and trying to help but it looks liek I wont even bother anymore if I just get this crap |
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| Posted:Mar 9 2005, 10:24 AM |
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shadowz i wasnt asking for a mechanics opinion, i was asking for suggestions from a fellow tx5 owner, thats all!! it's pretty friggin obvious that i would ask a mechanics advice before actually going through with anything! the reason i asked on here is so i can find out my options, and then find out from a professional the pros and cons of each and what each is likely to cost me and what the best one would be to go with! if ur gonna abuse people friggin go somewhere else, cos this isnt the place for it! people like you really piss me off u know that, were jus havin a discussion and u come in and start hurlin abuse at zorb! go somewhere else and do it, cos totalrpm isnt the place!!
zorb, yeah i talked to they guys on MX6.com about the Fe-DOHC swap, so if i did decide to do any sort of swap it would be that, with the intention of sticking a T3/4 on it at some stage down the track. ive done a lot of research on the Fe-DOHC swap by talkin people who have done it in their mx6's, and to this guy who is in the finishing stages of doing it in his AT2, so i know what i'd be up for if i went down that path.
btw, we really should get a TX5 cruise organised for a couple of months from now (when i have my head gasket replaced) cos i havent met any of you guys in person and i'd really like to |
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| Posted:Mar 9 2005, 01:06 PM |
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| QUOTE | | did at any stage I say yeah just do this |
well dick head you did say
| QUOTE | | Hye why dont ya just turbo your one?? it would eb cheaper probably and you'd ended getting a quicker car ut of it cause you could put in abigger turbo." |
so read what u say before you speak.
a 1.8 lancer is built to take the pain of a turbo. most of the parts/methods of construction are used in the creation of the bigger brother evo series so GO LEARN SOME MORE SHIT.
and large horsepower in a tx5 easy, DICKHEAD. get the 3sgte pistons from ACL $400 rated up to 400 hp, shotpeen the rods, shave the block, exhaust manifold, wastgate (if your turbo doesn't come with one), T28 turbo, plus standard shit like exhaust, air filter... And what do you have BIG FUCKING HP. like 250 - 300 thats fucking plenty for a a front wheels drive daily driver, and in that weight of a vechile you WILL keep up or BEAT skylines (depending on their mods).
if your after more power than that i suggest you go for the fe motor as you found out but import the 4WD system as traction will be your biggest worry not power.
Look zorb no offence but dont suggest something if you dont know the consequences of doing so.
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108kW @ 4700rpm AUTOMATIC, MANUAL is more FFS, on a GHIA TURBO (they dont exist u fuck wit. a ghia is non turbo) the AT gets 110 the AV is different. Its carsales.com yeah if thats who you trust with aquiring info then you deserve all the shit you get.
well QIK-TX5 decide how much power you would be happy with then decide how your going to get it. and what bases need to be covered to get power to the tarmac (suspension, camber kit, if your going to drag with huge hp and fwd may want to think bout a trolley setup. etc...) |
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| Posted:Mar 9 2005, 05:54 PM |
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Well look from no on I wont saying anything from now on ill leave it to the experts (the guy that doesnt even own a tx5) sorry qik but from now on if ya wanna ask any questions just pm me okay cause seems ya get balsted for even making a suggestion....
ohh and shadow there was a tx5 turbo ghia...I have the manual and book to show you (my gf's dad has worked for ford for over 25yrs) the turbo ghia was exactly the same as the standard one but ahd some extra internal features...I have actually seen one...ohh and the 108kw's is the power figure of the tx5 it doesnt matter which modle he asked for the power figures I gave him them didnt I....I wasnt trying to be smart simply correcting what was said..whats the big deal...and carslaes.com was a site I could find with the info on it just to show you..if you liek Ill find another obviously more prudent document that well hopefully convience you otherwise.. als the 4wd system probably isnt the best idea as it still doesnt hook up standard to the DOHC engine as far as I know (only little bit of research done), and it also cost approximately 2,500 to import and buy so by the time you convert that and the drivetrain and whatever else it will seriously not be worth it...ohh and the lancer engine isnt the 1.8 one I found out today its the even smaller one 1.5 or something...ohh ia lso looke dat using the fwd sysetm off the tx3 and Ive been told its not really feasible to fit that either... anyways look your the emchanic (apparently) ill elave the rest off the talking to you...hey qik Ill see ya on mx6.com...shadow sorry about opening my mouth your highness I will endevour to keep it closed form now on..hopefully you can too...and also get the fuck outta my profile... |
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| Posted:Mar 9 2005, 05:57 PM |
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| ohh and dickhead I said why dont you as in why dont you with a question mark on the end you know the thing that means IM asking a question not making a statement..do you understand that??? |
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| Posted:Mar 9 2005, 06:42 PM |
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in that case it would mean you wern't talking of a conversion just putting in a turbo. even if that wasn't the case why post it cos you would only confuse qik tx5. BTW how many vechilces have you delt with in your life?, and how long have you been on your p-plates so far??
QIK-TX5 just tell me how much horse power your after and i'll tell you how to achive it easily and with the least amount of expense. Ignore zorb he's in his own fantasy world.  |
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| Posted:Mar 9 2005, 06:46 PM |
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| mate ive had 7 cars actually done 2 up myslef and the toehrs were lil pieces of shit my old man currently also drives a new ba xr6 turbo with a phase 3 kit he also has ba g220 fairlane, and me and my lil bro are currently working on doin up a lil trx...mate your also in afantasy workld please talk about this shit elsewhere neways cause im sick of getting bagged for it...start ay own topic somewhere else if its such a big deal..as qik knows i offered a suggestion and that was it...look i never said to be a mechanic I never said I knew all there was to know about tx5's and I never said how expensive any sort of conversion would be..now your the so called emchanci you tell him but not in my fucking profile.. ohh and qik go for ya life listen to sir.shadowz over here...ive been honest all along and told you to check out mx6.com you said youve been there altely so honestly i dont think you need anymore help than that at all... |
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| Posted:Mar 9 2005, 06:49 PM |
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| been on my p plates for just over 4 years coming up will be the second time ive lsot my license... |
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| Posted:Mar 9 2005, 06:53 PM |
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| actually dude, no offence intended whatsoever (that wasnt sarcastic), but i will ask zorb as when im looking for advice i ask a few different people (not just one) and then decide what im going to do from that. plus zorb is a top bloke |
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| Posted:Mar 9 2005, 07:12 PM |
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just to let you know i'll end this as my last post, so dont stress too much! 
but u started giving him prices on engines and cars, so you where in fact giving him directional pointers. For future referance ask the person how many hp where they would like to see the car go (eg. summernats, drag combat, or just car shows. with shows just tell em to ignore power and make anything and everthing in egine bay shiney. last years PAS a stock RX (not WRX) won the comp cos it looked cool. polished pipes, etc...) then after they tell you then direct them towards making a decision. In most cases (this may not be one of them) the person is just after a rough price to see if its worth doing to there car usually the person would rather save the 5 - 10 grand for a house deposit, (money that makes money). they usually just like pretending they have or are getting, some horsepower.
well in future dont suggest something with out knowing all the facts of doing such changes to an engine.
has the xr6t had any problems with the increaced power, my friend did the same and he sold it three weeks after getting it finished, scary thing is he is normally a FORD man but after the sale he went and got a LS1 crewman it now has over 400kw at the treads.
Allright bye, leaving, not writing here unless asked.
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| Posted:Mar 9 2005, 07:21 PM |
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Well im happy to reply to the question on the xr6 hasnt had any real probs with power yet except for the computer..cause of course the xr6t computer cant actually be overridden only piggy backed theres been a bit of a probalem with incossitant boost levels due to arguments (shall we call it) between the two computers other than thatw e found no real porblems..other than the fact that we're getting more power from it on standard unleaded petrol than on premium (which was a suprise to me) and to the guys at the mechanics....(although they did offer an explaination).
Ohh and about the prices i gave for qik car you'lla lso see that i told him the rough price of getting another car also...and if you have a look th prices are pretty comparable..7,000 for a well looked after half decent tx5 and approm the same for a fulle ngine and turbo conversion on his current car (including labour etc.. etc..) but look its no big deal he asked fopr opinions that what i gave him..im not a professional and never to I calim to be..i was just offering advice... |
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| Posted:Mar 10 2005, 08:18 PM |
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| zorb , top car man but im not much into the spoilor ,apart from that looks tuff as , just wanted to ask ya with the boost controller how do read the boost gauge , cause at the moment i only get the vacumn reading ? i was told it should show psi at 3000rpm , can ya help? |
